Lauren Drain Kagan (IG: @LaurenDrainFit) is a New York Times Best Selling Author with her book Banished: Surviving My Years in Westboro Baptist Church. She’s a registered nurse, certified personal trainer and mother. She’s a WBFF pro and currently has almost 4 million followers on Instagram.
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0:00 Intro
0:58 First time meeting Lauren
1:21 Making influencers three-dimensional
2:20 *Amazing story getting out of a cult
4:32 Inconsistencies with the Bible
6:09 Purpose for writing the book
7:09 Sexual improprieties, Alcohol use
8:41 Confusion about sex after marriage
9:17 Misogyny, arranged marriages and control
12:05 Margaret Atwood and the Handmaid’s Tale
13:15 *Westborough Baptist Church protests
15:50 *Getting media attention
16:31 *They were the only people going to heaven
18:20 Nothing was forgivable
19:16 Other hypocrisies
22:11 Definition of a cult
24:53 Physical abuse
27:07 Different ethnic groups and Revelations
29:27 The death of Pastor Phelps
34:53 More discrepancies with the Bible
36:45 Beliefs that stay with you after you escape
41:53 *Deprogramming yourself
46:07 Sex in the Bible
46:36 Evolution
48:51 Vladimir Putin
50:13 Oppression against Jews
52:36 Moonlanding conspiracy
53:00 Going to public school while being part of a cult
56:00 Sharpied out of family photos
57:23 Narcissistic supply
59:05 Lubyanka prison and the KGB
1:00:53 Defecting from the cult and feeling suicidal
1:02:15 PTSD and therapy
1:03:52 Forgiveness
1:06:17 *My father’s death
1:08:15 Aria Sky Kagan
1:09:50 Transitioning out of the cult
1:11:53 Ex best friend
1:13:54 Lauren’s mom
1:15:05 Transition back into dating
1:18:01 Meeting your husband on Match.com
1:21:15 *You’re not girlfriend material
1:23:06 *A relationship in Las Vegas
1:24:29 California is a terrible place to live
1:26:14 Signs that David was the one
1:29:16 Preventative side of healthcare
1:31:03 When did you realize you could get this ripped?
1:33:09 Competing in the northeast
1:36:30 Transition away from nursing
1:38:28 What is the thing most trainers are getting wrong?
1:40:43 @TheNurseMary: Coworkers judgmental about OnlyFans
1:44:00 Huge influencers who don’t do nudes on OnlyFans
1:47:22 Instagram is like an abusive boyfriend
1:48:55 Complications during pregnancy, sciatica
1:50:30 Post baby workout routine
1:51:43 Posting your relationship on Instagram
1:56:15 *Not available during my growth on Instagram
1:57:45 Jamie Villamor: When are you going to work out with me?
2:00:23 Testosterone and estrogen
2:02:56 *I’d like to f$&k my wife once in a while
2:05:30 *Test is the reason for this podcast
2:07:50 *UNLV study
2:10:40 What charities do you support?
2:11:28 How many people have left Westboro Baptist church?
2:13:01 Living in Las Vegas
2:14:40 Favorite people to work with, Mike Tang
2:16:47 *Monogamy
2:19:00 Anyone you don’t like to work with
2:22:49 *Jamie Villamor
2:24:03 Book advance
2:25:09 Legal ramifications of the book
2:28:21 How do you know you’re in a toxic situation?
2:31:07 Outro
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